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Old 08-22-2000, 06:52 AM   #1
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Cool ESP ticket update, any police/lawyers out there, can you look at this evidence photo?

OK, for those of you who missed my original ESP question, I got a citation for 40 in a 25. All other roads in the area are 35 and, even though this road is the primary route and is twice as wide as any other road around it, has an artificially low speed limit.

Last week, officers were clocking people with ESP coming through the intersection in question going from a 35 zone into a 25 zone and ticketing them. They had about a dozen people pulled over. Everyone from soccer moms to little old ladies.

Here is the only sign that marks the 25 zone. No other signs are visible and, before the intersection in the photograph, it's a 35 zone. I'm looking to plea for 5 over because I honestly thought I was still in a 35 zone. That is, if the officers even show up.

What are my chances of this photo actually getting me off completely, or at least getting me a plea for 5 over?

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Old 08-22-2000, 07:05 AM   #2
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Some of you guys have all the luck. I think I will start a thread on my latest misfortune
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Old 08-22-2000, 07:08 AM   #3
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Teehee...well, some of the sign is still visible, but when going through an intersection at 40 MPH it's difficult to see. Hrm. I'll use my guilt as a defense! Yeah, yeah, that's it, yeah!

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Old 08-22-2000, 07:54 AM   #4
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If you are planning your defense of speeding on the obstructed speed limit sign alone, best of luck. You may run into trouble getting the photograph in. There is no date/time on the photo, etc.. In other words, don't rely only on the photograph. There will undoubtedly be other obstacles for you to get through in court.

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:25 AM   #5

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Hey is that your friend sitting behind the tree bending it over in front of the sign?

Good luck man... I've never had the drive to fight a ticket myself, I hope you do well.
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Old 08-22-2000, 08:56 AM   #6
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Go the the City Traffic Engeneering dept, if there is one, and find out how far away after an intersection there must be before there is a change in speed limit or notification thereof.

Some states actually have laws on the books that the Speed Limit sign be xx number of feet from an intersection.

Usually, entering an area where traffic slows, the speed limit goes lower before the traffic control device (Stop Sign/Lights) and not after it, like here.

I'd really look into it.
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Old 08-22-2000, 09:38 AM   #7
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Or go and get a lawyer...$75, he'll take your picture, throw it in the trash, and get you off with no points but a higher fine...
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Old 08-22-2000, 09:43 AM   #8
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My advice is to skip the country and head for Mexico.
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Old 08-22-2000, 03:01 PM   #9
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My advice is to try to get the prosecutor to drop the charges. Show him/her the photo you have. Once they decide not to dump this trash, you have two options. One take a plea to it and explain to the judge the situation - showing the photo. Likely the judge will either reduce the charges or give you no points. Your other option is to try the case. If you want help on what you have to do to have the photo admitted into evidence, PM me, and I'll give you a hand.

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