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Old 08-18-2000, 04:18 PM   #1
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Post Rally Finland; 1st day's results.

End of Leg 1
Friday, 18th August 2000
Extract from Official FIA Press Release http://www.fia.com

The 'Finnish Grand Prix' has lived up to its reputation for high
speed competition and there has been little to choose between the
times set by the rally leaders throughout today's opening leg, that
ran mainly to the north of Jyvaskyla. Marcus Gronholm was most
people's favourite to set the pace and, over the early stages, the
Finn has certainly lived up to expectations. Richard Burns has, for
the second year running, kept the pressure on the leader despite a
considerable difference of local knowledge and the top two drivers
in the FIA World Rally Championship have clearly shown why they
hold these positions.

Marcus Gronholm set the pace over the day's opening stages although
he admitted to visiting the ditch at high speed on the slippery new
Konttimaki test (SS5). “I was a bit surprised by a left hander and
that caused a problem,” he admitted. Gronholm's cousin Sebastian
Lindholm is driving the second car on this event and has been playing
himself in. “I'm still trying to find the limits of the car and
enjoying every single minute of driving ,” he said. The third Peugeot
is in the hands of team regular Francois Delecour. “I'm please to
be on the same pace as Sebastian,” he said. “The new gearshift
system is working very well. It's incredible how fast the leaders
are going.”

The Subaru team were cleared to start the event after a scrutineering
scare when the cars were initially thought to exceed the maximum
permitted width. FIA World Championship leader Richard Burns
expected to lose a lot of time because of running first on the
road but, thanks to the surface still being a little damp after
Tuesday's rain, he was able to stay in touch with the Peugeot of
Marcus Gronholm. “I went into a ditch on SS3 and the suspension
was a little damaged but otherwise there's no problem,” he said. “
It's not too bad running first on the road but the next few stages
are new and so there's loose gravel there. I've got more speed
available but I'm not sure what I can do about Marcus.”

The Ford drivers got off to a seemingly steady start over the first
stage although Carlos Sainz was soon in trouble on the second.
Quite close to the start of the stage the car developed a misfire
and would do no more than 30kph. The team radioed instructions to
the Spaniard and a change of engine ECU solved the problem but not
before Sainz had lost 5 minutes and dropped to 106th place. The
Spaniard will continue in the event for testing. Colin McRae took
a little while to settle into the groove and completed the first
group of stages in eighth place while team-mate Petter Solberg was
flying in fourth. “There are no team orders for me,” said the
Norwegian. “I am allowed to go flat out. That's easy to say but
quite difficult to do!” Unfortunately the Norvegian retired in stage
9 after a massive crash. McRae said: “Our pace notes have been
perfect but our braking points are a little out.” Tapio Laukkanen
has taken his first drive in a World Rally Car very carefully and
is gradually picking up the pace.

World Champion Tommi Makinen started this event eager to regain his
form. He got off to a good start on SS1 but then lost his rhythm on
the next when he had to brake hard to avoid the stricken Ford of
Carlos Sainz. “The first three stages were very fast and I don't
think our gear ratios were right. We also took far too soft a tyre
for the second group of stages, it was an unbelievable mistake for
me to make. The third group of stages (SS7-9) are the ones I enjoy
most on this rally so if I don't go well on them I'll have to ask
if it's the car or the driver that's not working properly!” Makinen's
team mate Freddy Loix had to slow for a couple of the opening stages
after landing heavily on the second and bending the new, lightweight,
front end. “When we got to service the engineers discovered that
the front of the chassis had been pushed up and the engine and
transmission had moved,” admitted the Belgian. The car was repaired
without time penalties but Loix will have to wait and see if the
car's performance has been compromised.

SEAT's debut event with the third evolution Cordoba WRC has not been
an easy one so far with both drivers sounding very dejected at the
post-stage radio interviews that are such a feature of this event.
Both have been unhappy with the performance of the revised engine
and, on the second group of stages, the car's handling has been
awry. Gardemeister's initial pace was hampered when he suffered a
tyre vibration on SS2 while Auriol is riding a knife edge. “I wait
until I see the brake marks from the earlier cars and then make
sure I brake later. I've had four big moments in the first three
stages!” His car's handling was a nightmare during the early
afternoon and he lost all pressure to the front differential. “
The car is virtually undriveable at the moment,” he said at service
before SS7. “We don't know what the problem is but we've got to
find it - and find it very quickly.”

Alister McRae's event hit an early problem when he punctured on SS2
and had to fit the wrong sized tyre/wheel combination for the third
stage. “We bent a front rim and so had to put a rear tyre on the
front,” he said. The Hyundai has been running in fifth and sixth
gear for most of the event and is finding the sandy surface saps
the engine power. Team-mate Kenneth Eriksson had a bolt in the front
suspension fail on SS2. He fixed the problem himself on the road
section after the stage. “The car feels good but if I'm not setting
top times then I can't be happy,” admitted the Swede. The third car,
for Australian Michael Guest, escaped a major 'tank-slapper' moment
this morning and continued despite a brush with a large rock.

Other teams
Frederic Dor (F Dor Rally Team) already looks to be on course to
take maximum points in the FIA Teams Cup section of this event. With
pre-event leader Spike Subaru not competing in Finland, the way was
already clear for a new leader. However Abdullah Bakhashab (Toyota
Team Saudi Arabia) rolled on SS6 and lost a lot of time and Hamed Al
Wahaibi's Arab World Rally Team Subaru retired with a broken
driveshaft on SS2. Group N is very much a local affair with Jouko
Puhakka locked in combat with Mitsubishi rival Jani Paasonen. FIA
series leader Manfred Stohl was third, but already falling away,
although still well clear of title rival Gustavo Trelles.

Tyre facts

Michelin's WRC partners can be happy about today's first part of
the leg, which was led from the beginning by Peugeot-Michelin driver
Marcus Grönholm. Teams and drivers have chosen different Michelin
patterns throughout the day in order to find the ideal match for the
conditions, in search for the tenths of a second that might well make
the difference at the end of the rally. On a quite smooth track,
Michelin's partners have had no problem with their tyres. As of now
(after SS7) Michelin driver (Grönholm) has set the first 5 of the 7
scratch stage times.

For the fifth rally in succession Richard Burns has had to run first
on the road for the opening day thanks to his position as FIA World
Rally Championship leader. Although today's stages have not been as
difficult for the first car as had been feared, the position was
still enough to keep Burns out of the fastest time sheets for the
first five before he won SS6 and SS7. Pirelli's K pattern tyre was
the initial choice although Juha Kankkunen swapped to the KM option
in the early afternoon to find better grip on the loose surfaces of
the new stages.


Unofficial Results at the end of Leg 1

1 Gronholm Peugeot 206 1:03:22,4
2 Burns Subaru Impreza 1:02:27,3
3 Rovanpera Seat Cordoba 1:03:47,9
4 McRae Ford Focus 1:03:55,7
5 Kankkunen Subaru Impreza 1:04:05,2
6 Makinen Mitsu Lancer 1:04:07,6
7 Lindholm Peugeot 206 1:04:09,7
8 Delecour Peugeot 206 1:04:16,3
9 Martin Toyota Corolla 1:04:22,4
10 Gardemeister Seat Cordoba 1:04:37,4

Group N
1 Paasonen Mitsu Carisma 1:07:52,2
2 Puhakka Mitsu Carisma 1:08:03,0
3 Stohl Mitsu Lancer 1:08:20,5

Teams Cup
1 Dor Subaru Impreza 1:12:48,8
F Dor Rally Team


Stage Winners

SS1 - Gronholm, SS2 - Gronholm, SS3 - Gronholm, SS4 - Gronholm,
SS5 - Gronholm, SS6 - Burns, SS7 - Burns, SS8 - Gronholm,
SS9 - Burns, SS10 - Makinen


Leading Retirements

Solberg (N) - Accident
Al Wahaibi (OM) - Accident
Puras (E)
Pozzo (RA)
7 non seeded drivers


SS 1 Kuohu 7.67 km
1st Car: 10.31

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Gronholm Peugeot 206 3:44,8
2 Burns Subaru Impreza 3:45,7
3 Rovanpera Toyota Corolla 3:45,8
4 Lindholm Peugeot 206 3:45,9
5 Makinen Mitsu Lancer 3:46,8


SS 2 Parkkola 20.11 km
1st Car: 10:57

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Gronholm Peugeot 206 10:06,7
2 Burns Subaru Impreza 10:07,9
3 Rovanpera Toyota Corolla 10:11,4
4 Solberg Ford Focus 10:13,2
5 Auriol Seat Cordoba 10:13,7


SS 3 Mokkipera 13.39 km
1st Car: 11:57

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Gronholm Peugeot 206 6:32,2
2 Burns Subaru Impreza 6:33,8
3 Rovanpera Toyota Corolla 6:35,7
4 Makinen Mitsu Lancer 6:36,4
5 Solberg Ford Focus 6:36,7


SS 4 Muittari 13.51 km
1st Car: 13:55

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Gronholm Peugeot 206 6:05,6
2 Burns Subaru Impreza 6:09,0
2 Delecour Peugeot 206 6:09,0
4 Rovanpera Toyota Corolla 6:09,8
5 McRae Ford Focus 6:10,2


SS 5 Konttimaki 13.08 km
1st Car: 14:18

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Gronholm Peugeot 206 5:40,7
2 Sainz Ford Focus 5:41,6
3 Burns Subaru Impreza 5:42,4
4 Kankkunan Subaru Impreza 5:42,4
5 Rovanpera Toyota Corolla 5:43,2


SS 6 Palsankyla 13.90 km
1st Car: 14:51

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Burns Subaru Impreza 7:28,6
2 McRae Ford Focus 7:28,9
3 Gronholm Peugeot 206 7:31,1
4 Solberg Ford Focus 7:31,9
5 Sainz Ford Focus 7:33,6


SS 7 Valkola 8.40 km
1st Car: 16:09

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Burns Subaru Impreza 4:30,2
2 Solberg Ford Focus 4:30,6
3 Rovanpera Toyota Corolla 4:30,6
4 Gronholm Peugeot 206 4:30,8
5 McRae Ford Focus 4:31,0


SS 8 Lankamaa 23.44 km
1st Car: 16:52

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Gronholm Peugeot 206 11:47,3
2 Burns Subaru Impreza 11:48,8
3 Kankkunen Subaru Impreza 11:49,2
4 Sainz Ford Focus 11:51,8
5 Rovanpera Toyota Corolla 11:52,0


SS 9 Laukaa 12.37 km
1st Car: 17:45

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Burns Subaru Impreza 6:13,0
2 Gronholm Peugeot 206 6:14,1
3 Rovanpera Toyota Corolla 6:15,6
4 Martin Toyota Corolla 6:15,7
5 Kankkunen Subaru Impreza 6:16,5


SS 10 Killeri 1 2.23 km
1st Car: 20:17

Stage Pos/ Driver/ Car/ Stage Time

1 Makinen Mitsu Lancer 1:07,9
1 Burns Subaru Impreza 1:07,9
3 Tuohino Toyota Corolla 1:08,3
4 Gardmeister Seat Cordoba 1:08,4
5 McRae Ford Focus 1:08,5
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Old 08-18-2000, 06:13 PM   #2
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From my friend Jukka - who is currently watching the Rally live!

Marcus and Richard are going way faster than anyone else,
interesting to see how long they can stay on the road
But what about Harri Rovanpera!? Just brilliant
performance with Grifone-Toyota Corolla WRC, private
teams car and he keeps beating McRae,Kankkunen and
Makinen. Tommi has had lots of problems, his car is total
disaster at the moment, wrong kind of parts, wrong tyres,
they have put too many new parts to the car and it`s not
working ok.
Petter Solberg, Ford Focus WRC went just out on ss 8 and
is out of this rally, and Juha has came 5th, passed Tommi
There are 2 stages left for today and then long 2 days
after it. And hey Tim, that noise from Subaru Impreza
WRC! Just beautiful!

Rally Finland 2000

SS 1
The 50th Neste Rally Finland started with a short 7
kilometre Kuohu sprint to get the drivers going. With
fast sweeping gravel roads the stage was what Rally
Finland, 'the Grand Prix of gravel roads' is all about.
Fastest on the stage was Peugeot's Marcus Gronholm, with
his closest championship rival Richard Burns second, only
0.9 secs behind. Third was Harri Rovanpera with a
privately entered Toyota and fourth Sebastian Lindholm,
who drives the second works Peugeot in the event.

SS 2
Marcus Gronholm was again fastest on the 20 km stage 2.
Burns was second fastest with a 1.2 secs slower time and
continued to chase the leading Finn 2.1 secs behind.
Rovanpera is third, followed by Didier Auriol, Sebastian
Lindholm, and Tommi Makinen with close margins. Ford's
Carlos Sainz had to stop on the stage to replace a faulty
computer box and lost more than five minutes.

SS 3
Stage three followed the same plot as the opening stages,
Gronholm was fastest and Burns close behind. Their
overall difference was 3.7 secs. Rovanpera, still third,
was 9.2 secs behind the leader. Tommi Makinen moved into
the 4th spot, 16 secs behind, with Norwegian Ford driver
Petter Solberg 5th, 0.8 secs behind Makinen. The margins,
as always in Finland, were close; Juha Kankkunen, who
suffered from punctures on the opening stages, in 11th
position was only 23 secs behind the leader.

SS 4
Gronholm continued his domination on stage 4 beating
Burns by 3.4 secs. Francois Delecour, who is driving the
third Peugeot and not competing for manufacturer points
surprised everyone by sharing the second fastest time
with Richard Burns. The leading trio seems was edging
away from the rest of the top contenders as Petter
Solberg, who got past Tommi Makinen into 4th place, was
already 22 secs behind Gronholm. Stage 4, as stages 5 and
6, were new to all the drivers.

SS 5
Carlos Sainz was second fastest on stage 5, being 9
tenths slower than stage winner Gronholm. Sainz is still
far behind in the result sheets after his problems on SS
2. Tommi Makinen was struggling with too soft a tyre
compound and lost some time and one more position to
Colin McRae.

SS 6
Stage 6 was the first stage not won by Marcus Gronholm,
as Richard Burns was fastest. McRae was second 0.3 secs
behind Burns and Gronholm third, 2.5 secs behind. McRae
took the 4th place from Solberg in the overall situation.
Burns was now 6.3 secs behind Gronholm and Rovanpera had
dropped already to 19.7 secs, only 5 secs in front of
McRae. Didier Auriol was struggling with the handling of
the Seat and had an off losing 50 secs.

SS 7
The 8.4 kilometre stage 7 saw extremely close racing.
Five drivers finished within one second. Burns was again
fastest, but Gronholm was only 0.6 secs slower. He was
4th, as Solberg and Rovanpera posted a time only 0.4 secs
slower than Burns. Needless to say, the stage didn't make
much of a difference in the overall situation.

SS 8
Marcus Gronholm took the honours on stage 8 by driving
1.5 secs faster than Burns. Juha Kankkunen was third
fastest on the stage driven near his home, and jumped
from 8th to 5th position. The time gaps behind the two
leaders were surprisingly large at such an early stage in
the rally. Petter Solberg crashed and rolled
spectacularly ending up the rear of the Ford parked
firmly in a lake. The crew was unhurt but their rally,
which had started so well, was over.

SS 9
It was Burns' turn to be fastest on stage 9. Gronholm was
2nd, one sec behind, and Rovanpera 3rd. Still third in
the rally, the private Toyota driver held off Colin
McRae's attack nicely by staying eight seconds in front
of the Scotsman. Stage 9 was good for the Toyotas as
Estonian driver Markko Martin was third quickest with his
Corolla. With his great time Martin was closing on
Delecour in 8th position.

SS 10
Stage 10 was a super special driven on a horse trotting
track. Two cars that started from the opposite sides of
the oval track ran at the same time for two laps. This
oval racing on gravel was quite far from stage rallying
but surely entertaining for the crowds. The 2.2 km sprint
didn't bring major changes; Tommi Makinen, who hadn't
been very happy with the performance of the new version
of his Mitsubishi Lancer on the first leg, and Richard
Burns were fastest with an equal time. Burns cut
Gronholm's overnight lead to 4.9 secs, while Makinen is
only 2.4 secs behind 5th placed Juha Kankkunen. Sebastian
Lindholm in 7th with the Peugeot is 2.1 secs behind
Makinen, so the Finns have a good fight going on.

Results after stage 10 of 23:

1. Marcus Gronholm (FIN) Peugeot - 1.03.22,4
2. Richard Burns (ENG) Subaru +4,9
3. Harri Rovanpera (FIN) Toyota +25,5
4. Colin McRae (SCO) Ford +33,3
5. Juha Kankkunen (FIN) Subaru +42,8
6. Tommi Makinen (FIN) Mitsubishi +45,2
7. Sebastian Lindholm (FIN) Peugeot +47,3
8. Francois Delecour (FRA) Peugeot +53,9
9. Markko Martin (EST) Toyota +1.00,0
10. Toni Gardemeister (FIN) Seat +1.15,0

Really exciting first day is over, Gronholm and Burns are
having a good and close race going on at the top, without
any technical problems on both sides, it will be very
close `til the end. Saturday is going to be really tough
for cars and drivers, long day and many long stages,
legendary Ouninpohja, there is the place where men and
boys are separated, high speeds, jumps, bends, tight
corners, just typical Finnish countryside gravel road?No,
even worse!LOL!
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Old 08-19-2000, 12:29 AM   #3
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Gronholm is making quite a fight, isn't he?

Go Richard, go!

(You know, I have to admit that little Peugeot is a cool little car tool.)

-Red (Hoping I get to see a little of the coverage.)
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