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Old 03-20-2004, 05:28 PM   #1
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i just put a new hearder uppipe and down pipe on my car today went to start it and it fire for a seconde and shut off now it will not start up agin it cranks over fine but will not fire i have the o2 sensor unhook from the back cat becues i got a cat elmeintor pipe does any one no why it will not fire up
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Old 03-20-2004, 05:36 PM   #2
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Is the battery dead?

Also, what eliminator pipe did you get? I'm not sure but that could be where the problem is, but most of them come with a place to screw in the O2 sensor.
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Old 03-20-2004, 05:52 PM   #3
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nope batterys good it is a tsa down pipe and cat elmatore it has no were to screw it in to
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Old 03-20-2004, 08:29 PM   #4
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the car doesn't use the O2 sensor on cold start...battery prob is likely. it should start even w/ the sensor unpluged, you'll just get a CEL. if you don't wanna replace the battery yet, do ya got a volt meter to check it?
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Old 03-20-2004, 08:58 PM   #5
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could be the battery but did you check.


A) your front o2 sensor is pluged in and actually in the header?
B) if you did the resistor mod you made sure you put it in the propery plug?
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Old 03-21-2004, 01:25 AM   #6
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Did you run out of gas?

The car will still run with the o2 sensor disconnected, and from what I gather this is the rear o2 sensor you left out? That will have no affect. The ECU doesnt look at the rear o2 sensor for anything but monitoring catalytic converter effeciency.

it has to be related to something you did. What did you disconnect? Check all your connections and your intercooler hoses.

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Old 03-21-2004, 02:15 AM   #7
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Sounds like the battery is drained. Subaru OEM batteries are not that good, get an Optima.
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Old 03-21-2004, 04:02 AM   #8
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Sounds like the battery is drained. Subaru OEM batteries are not that good, get an Optima.
Screw Optima. Just got to Pep Boys and get the $60 battery with a 5 year waranty on it. Who cares if it craps out on you after two years it's still good for 3 more according to them. You can just take it back and get a new one provided you have the receipt.

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Old 03-21-2004, 10:23 AM   #9
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It sounds like one of the metered air (intake) lines got loose or pulled off when you changed your pipes. (turbo hanging on the intake hoses) its somthing simple look it over again. dont worry.

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Old 03-21-2004, 10:33 AM   #10
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ok just cheched all the wires and did skin a few of the wires on the front o2 sensor but tapped them back up now and it truns over fine plues i got a chager hooked up to the battery so it does not drain the batttery and when i frist tryed starting it it did fire up a sec or two then it shut off
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Old 03-21-2004, 11:46 AM   #11
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ok i try that someone else told me that if my o2 senscor got messed up that it could have fryed my ecu how would a check it
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Old 03-21-2004, 11:52 AM   #12
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A couple of things-
If the car starts, runs and dies it's not likely to be the battery, especially if it was fine before the work was done. Probably either a huge vacuum/intake leak someplace or not getting fuel for some reason.
The battery may have become a factor later on from all the cranking while trying to restart the car.
As for battery choices, everyone will have their own opinion on this. I went with an Optima even though the stock battery was still working, because I was unhappy with the cranking performance in winter and didn't think it would last that long. The CCA rating of the OE battery is low to begin with and will only drop as it ages. The cost of the Optima was not all that much greater than a "premium" 60- or 72- month conventional battery, $109 OTC for a 35 Red-Top at the local Pep Boys + another $5 for a longer starter cable. They can now be had in a terminal configuration that just drops in and uses the existing cables, although only online retailers seem to have those. Price is cheaper though.
It's true you can buy a cheaper battery and if it fails within the warranty period get a new one for either free or a pro-rated cost, but if it fails at an inconvenient time, as they usually do, it still sucks. I didn't want to need another battery for a long time. The Optima is also zero-maintenance, contains no liquid electrolyte, holds up to temperature extremes better, and even the Red-Top will tolerate a limited number of deep discharges without permanent damage.
Anyway, just my opinion, YMMV and all that
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Old 03-21-2004, 11:54 AM   #13
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To check the ECU the best thing to do would be to find someone with a scanner and see if you can connect to the ECU and get data from it. If you can't that's a strong sign it may be bad. If you can the data should help you find the problem.
Also check all your fuses.
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Old 03-21-2004, 01:51 PM   #14
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thanks for the help everyone just tryed puting new battery in didn't help and check fues trying to find some one with a hand held scanner right now
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Old 03-21-2004, 03:36 PM   #15
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First off spray a shot of starting fluid into the intake when cranking. If it fires its a fuel problem if it don't its a spark problem.

Once you figure that out you can start eliminating possibilites one at time rather than stabbing in the dark or replacing a seemingly fine battery.

Can you hear the fuel pump prime when you turn on the ignition?
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Old 03-21-2004, 05:37 PM   #16
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i just put a new hearder uppipe and down pipe on my car today went to start it and it fire for a seconde and shut off now it will not start up agin it cranks over fine but will not fire i have the o2 sensor unhook from the back cat becues i got a cat elmeintor pipe does any one no why it will not fire up
Pull any CELs codes you have. Diagnosing is much easier if we know what problems the ECU thinks there are.

Also did you raise the engine or remove the turbo to install the up pipe?

Do you have a ram air or cold air intake or using the stock box? (A backwards MAF causes huge problems - make sure the plug on the MAF is facing forward.)

The abscence of the rear O2 will throw a CEL for missing the heater but will not affect the running of the car. I don't know if it will even check for cat efficiency if the ECU can't find the heater load.
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:26 AM   #17
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i got it running thanks for all the help it was just a blow fuse but now it to loud i mad it 4 miles from my houes and got pulled over for it got 5 days to fix
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:32 AM   #18
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Well we can't help you with that one
Good to hear you got it running though.
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:40 AM   #19
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Just curious what circut was the fuse on ? Fuel Pump?
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Old 03-22-2004, 12:09 PM   #20
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it was the spf no2 fuse in the fues box under the hood not sure what it for i think it is the fuel pump
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Old 03-22-2004, 01:29 PM   #21
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you should listen to 22B Keeper.

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