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Old 04-12-2004, 10:57 AM   #1
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Default The "Official" meaning of the WRX acronym

Sparked by this debate- link:Whats Does Wrx Stand For???? I decided to email my contact at FHI/STI who works in the marketing/advertising dept. They have used some Rally photos of mine for their magazine "Boxer Sound".

So here is my email:

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Ta***wa-san

....I was hoping you might be able to settle a debate for me. We have been
debating in the North American Impreza Club what exactly "WRX" stands for,
(I think it means World Rally and the X means Cross Country) so I am hoping
you could give me the official meaning of the acronym (and help prove how
smart I am : ) )

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Hello Segal-san,

....About "WRX", WR obviously stands for "World Rally", and "X" stands for the
mathematical symbol for the unknown, that means its possibility is infinite.
I believe "Cross Country" is also included in that possibility, don't you
think?

So apparently, the X is what ever you want it to be.

So that is the politically correct answer
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I'll buy that.

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Old 04-12-2004, 01:54 PM   #3
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oh well works for me
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'X' usually stands for eXperimental. There have been plenty of other manufacturers that have used this designation before. Only one that comes to mind at the moment is the America Motors AMX, @ 1969. But I know there are more.

'Course, most of the newbs in this forum probably never heard of AM.

But this has been discussed to death. The X thing, that is.
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Old 04-12-2004, 02:23 PM   #5
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I must add that is a sweet response.

The idea of X being unknown (especially from a mathematical perspective) and to be left that way is totally radically innovative.

The idea of of looking at it as eXperimental does not do it for me.

This is one I will never forget.
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I am almost positive that it stands for Experimental

I tried searching for the post, but this has definetely been covered before. Back in 92' the WRX was initially an experimental project by subaru to try to create a basis for motorsport cars and WRX was just a title that stuck.... I think it was probably more like a project code or something that was just adapted to be the name
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'X' usually stands for eXperimental. There have been plenty of other manufacturers that have used this designation before. Only one that comes to mind at the moment is the America Motors AMX, @ 1969. But I know there are more.

'Course, most of the newbs in this forum probably never heard of AM.

But this has been discussed to death. The X thing, that is.
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'X' usually stands for eXperimental. There have been plenty of other manufacturers that have used this designation before. Only one that comes to mind at the moment is the America Motors AMX, @ 1969. But I know there are more.

BMW 325iX Refers to the 4wd

I don't recall any companies refering to a production car as Experimental, it is no longer an experiment at that point



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But this has been discussed to death. The X thing, that is.
Yes it has, but everytime, someone comes out and says it means "experimental" which was just an assumption and not based on any fact that I have seen. Don't want to be passing false info off to the n00bs now do we
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I am almost positive that it stands for Experimental

I tried searching for the post, but this has definetely been covered before. Back in 92' the WRX was initially an experimental project by subaru to try to create a basis for motorsport cars and WRX was just a title that stuck.... I think it was probably more like a project code or something that was just adapted to be the name
Sounds plausible, but they started their Motorsports projects on the Legacy

Keep looking, would like to see it
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Old 04-12-2004, 03:55 PM   #9
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'Course, most of the newbs in this forum probably never heard of AM.
I remember when my nieghbor bought their brand new '76 AMC Matador. .......ack.
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Old 04-12-2004, 11:58 PM   #10
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im pretty sure the x in wrx is refering to the fact that its awd. bmw and jaguar also use x's in the names of their awd models.
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AWD=X Hmmm..come to think of it...it makes sense. Not the letter X itself...but X as a symbol of having 4 cornered points...like an AWD set of wheels
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AWD=X Hmmm..come to think of it...it makes sense. Not the letter X itself...but X as a symbol of having 4 cornered points...like an AWD set of wheels

That is what I always thought, but apparently not the answer
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AWD=X Hmmm..come to think of it...it makes sense. Not the letter X itself...but X as a symbol of having 4 cornered points...like an AWD set of wheels

oh that's good
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I've always heard that WRX stands for "World Rally eXperiement". Thats what the dealership says at least.
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Old 04-13-2004, 09:03 AM   #15
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Morpho has even covered this topic before!!!

but here goes again

http://www.northursalia.com/faq/faq2.html#W

This should answer any questions....
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Morpho has even covered this topic before!!!

but here goes again

http://www.northursalia.com/faq/faq2.html#W

This should answer any questions....
Um, didn't you read the first post? I presented information straight from Fuji Heavy Industries

Your link is some dudes website
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Some "dude" happens to be Brian aka North Ursalia(your friendly mod) As someone that works for subaru, and has had probably more experience with these cars than any of us.
If you wanna call bs on him, go for it. I would ask him questions before emailing any rep from Fuji Ind. They dont care what the hell you think, and probably dont even know what WRX means. And didnt exactly sound too sure, he couldnt even decide what he wanted it to be!



If I trust anyone, its Brian

Prove otherwise, and we'll talk
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And didnt exactly sound too sure, he couldnt even decide what he wanted it to be!
Japanese people rarely use any type of strong confirmation or denial in their manner of expression; whether in English, Japanese,etc. The only ones who do that are so well versed in their field as to be household names.
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Some "dude" happens to be Brian aka North Ursalia(your friendly mod) As someone that works for subaru, and has had probably more experience with these cars than any of us.
If you wanna call bs on him, go for it. I would ask him questions before emailing any rep from Fuji Ind. They dont care what the hell you think, and probably dont even know what WRX means. And didnt exactly sound too sure, he couldnt even decide what he wanted it to be!



If I trust anyone, its Brian

Prove otherwise, and we'll talk
He sounds pretty sure to me. (The last part he is joking with me). I will take the word of of the Japanese guy until Brian answers the email I sent him and proves otherwise.
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Some "dude" happens to be Brian aka North Ursalia(your friendly mod) As someone that works for subaru, and has had probably more experience with these cars than any of us.
If you wanna call bs on him, go for it. I would ask him questions before emailing any rep from Fuji Ind. They dont care what the hell you think, and probably dont even know what WRX means. And didnt exactly sound too sure, he couldnt even decide what he wanted it to be!



If I trust anyone, its Brian

Prove otherwise, and we'll talk
OK, I heard from Brian. He works for Subaruwrxparts.com which is part of a Subaru dealership in New Hampshire. Brian is definitly a Subaru Ubergeek (his description) and knows his stuff.

Here is my email to him:

Hi Brian

We're debating the meaning of WRX on NASIOC (again), and a lot of people have turned to your FAQ meaning (World Rally eXperimanetal) as a statement of fact, stating that you worked for Subaru.

I have emailed a friend at Fuji Heavy Industries who works for STI and he says the X is stands for the an infinite equation, meaning infinate possibilties

So I am asking you, where did you get your information and what proof do you have that it is official?

Morgan





the reply

Hi Morgan-

It came from the horse's ass (I mean mouth )- Subaru of America. That is not to say it is correct or incorrect though. They've been known to be hugely wrong before .

Brian


There you have it

I am sticking with my man from Japan
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I thought of something else to add more mystery to the fray- in Australia at the very least, they had the rexes before the WRX . They produced a model called the REX



and




More recently, it has made a comeback in at least Japan, Russia, and the Czech Republic-

http://www.d4.dion.ne.jp/~giulia/papa/rex.htm


and



and



I would think that the "X" in both probably stand for the same thing. Not that this clears anything up any more mind you, but maybe we can also ask OZ, Czech, or Russian Subaru dealers the same thing and see if we get any different info? One of the people I live with is from Czech, so I'll ask her to email a dealership. Anyone speak Russian out there?


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Being a stickler myself, I just emailed SOA about this and will post their reply here. Even though I trust Brian, some people need the "copy/paste" email reassurance.
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Being a stickler myself, I just emailed SOA about this and will post their reply here. Even though I trust Brian, some people need the "copy/paste" email reassurance.
Brian suggested that SOA might be wrong, so how does their answer supercede an answer from Fuji Japan?

SOA is essentially responsible for selling the cars in the US, they are a big sales team.

Fuji is the mother company
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There you have it

I am sticking with my man from Japan
Whatever you choose to believe doesnt matter to me, but I cant see how you are so certain. From the email you showed us, he seems like he was just giving you an answer.....Ie. The "dont you think?" at the end.

Not that it really matters or anything, but my money is on Experimental......
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