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Old 11-05-2004, 08:24 PM   #1
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I've been bumped into Street Prepared for the COM track days. This means I need a cage.

Anyone have pics of your back seat with a cage installed? I'd like to see how useless the back seat will really become.
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Old 11-06-2004, 11:29 AM   #2
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With a cage in your car it is really unsafe to have persons riding in the back due to thier exsposure to the cage itself. I have a cage in mine and just went ahead and reemoved the back seats so I would not be tempted to put someone back there. But, there is enough room to put a smal person back there.
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Old 11-06-2004, 03:06 PM   #3
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Do you need a full 6-point rollcage? or will a 4-point rollbar work for your rules?

I don't have a cage in my car, but I know a bit about cages and have seen a few different caged WRXs... The rearmost tubes will pretty much require you to bend the upper seat back cushion around them. The outer edges will need to squish around them, and the outer seatback mounting points probably won't get clicked into place. You might be able to wrestle them in.

As for rear seat usage, groceries are pretty much the only thing the backseat will be useful for. As far back as the WRX front seats sit, the harness bar would basically be in the face of any rear seat passengers, and they'd have solid metal running right beside their head on the rear downtubes.
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Old 11-06-2004, 08:58 PM   #4
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Old 11-06-2004, 11:27 PM   #5
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I've been bumped into Street Prepared for the COM track days. This means I need a cage.

Anyone have pics of your back seat with a cage installed? I'd like to see how useless the back seat will really become.
Why are you in SPB?
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Old 11-07-2004, 09:34 PM   #6
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If you are in SPB, you will also need a fire suit and a SA rated helmet.

SPB allows rear seat removal. It's pretty much impossible to get into the back seat anyway with the roll bar installed. I have the Autopower bolt-in bar.

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Old 11-08-2004, 03:20 AM   #7
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Why are you in SPB?
According to the rule book, Any power modifications put me in SP. I've done an uppipe, downpipe and ECU. My HP is over stock now.
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Old 11-11-2004, 02:46 PM   #8
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I need a rollbar for SP too, and I have a wagon. Where can I get one?
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Old 11-11-2004, 03:17 PM   #9
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Old 11-11-2004, 03:17 PM   #10
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According to the rule book, Any power modifications put me in SP. I've done an uppipe, downpipe and ECU. My HP is over stock now.

You are in ST1 with the rest of us
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Old 11-11-2004, 03:17 PM   #11
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Alex Joe and I all have similar mods to yours and all run in ST1
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:53 PM   #12
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I hope you are kidding. That cage is an absolute joke. Scratch that, the entire car is a joke.
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Old 11-11-2004, 05:13 PM   #13
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I hope you are kidding. That cage is an absolute joke. Scratch that, the entire car is a joke.
If you seriously think that... YOU are a joke.

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Old 11-11-2004, 05:16 PM   #14
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Old 11-11-2004, 05:18 PM   #15
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I hope you are kidding. That cage is an absolute joke. Scratch that, the entire car is a joke.
I bet you prefer a 'bolt in' cage.

You're an idiot.
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Old 11-11-2004, 05:19 PM   #16
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That car is pretty funny.
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Old 11-11-2004, 05:29 PM   #17
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this shows how useless a rear seat is with a real cage in place





but I would Imagine, if you did have to go into this class you'd just need a 4 point or a bolt in harness bar? - those are much less obtrusive when done correctly.

Sounds like, from what the guys are saying... you dont need one tho

hope this helps.

More Cage Photos here <---


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Old 11-11-2004, 06:14 PM   #18
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If you are going to do a roll cage get it done correctly. A roll cage can be more of a hazard if it is not done properly since you may have a flase sense of security. To get an idea of cage design check out our website there is a list of subaru roll cage kits in the safety section. You can see the diagram that should give you an idea.
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:19 PM   #19
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There are a lot of good cage pictures here:

http://cages.jive.net/gallery/albums.php

And check out Specialstage.com for other helpful cage tips.

http://www.specialstage.com/forum/cg...rum=DCForumID8
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Old 11-12-2004, 12:37 PM   #20
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Alex Joe and I all have similar mods to yours and all run in ST1
any of you guys have rollbars I could check out?
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:56 PM   #21
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If you seriously think that... YOU are a joke.
Sorry, that car is a joke no matter how much you covet it. I'm sure those guys are now capable of building a real cage, but they lost all their credibility putting a seat in the back and making room for amps and sound. And that stupid curved tube coming out of the front of the strut tower, what does that do?

One thing nobody has mentioned is that once you put a cage in you can no longer use a stock 3pt seat belt, you must use a 5 or 6pt. And you must put both the lap belts and BOTH shoulder belts on every time. You have to keep yourself in the seat and away from the cage at all costs. It's not really safe to drive a caged car with no helmet, but some times there's no way around that. Rally cars do transits without helmets, and some people have no choice but to drive their caged cars on the street, but it's less than ideal. Cage padding should be the super high density foam, which feels like a brick to your head, but in an accident with your helmet on it will really soften the impact. If your cage padding gives to the touch, it's useless.

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Old 11-12-2004, 02:25 PM   #22
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Call rally innovations.
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Old 11-12-2004, 03:07 PM   #23
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Yea....

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This car is our Rally teams show car it will be used for shows and for demonstration purposes. And it will race a couple of rally-x. The cage is not fully legal to do real stages.

metal flake? We don't need a friggin bass boat runnin around.
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Old 11-12-2004, 06:38 PM   #24
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any of you guys have rollbars I could check out?

nope none of us are caged

YET!
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Old 11-12-2004, 07:53 PM   #25
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Sorry, that car is a joke no matter how much you covet it. I'm sure those guys are now capable of building a real cage, but they lost all their credibility putting a seat in the back and making room for amps and sound. And that stupid curved tube coming out of the front of the strut tower, what does that do?

One thing nobody has mentioned is that once you put a cage in you can no longer use a stock 3pt seat belt, you must use a 5 or 6pt. And you must put both the lap belts and BOTH shoulder belts on every time. You have to keep yourself in the seat and away from the cage at all costs. It's not really safe to drive a caged car with no helmet, but some times there's no way around that. Rally cars do transits without helmets, and some people have no choice but to drive their caged cars on the street, but it's less than ideal. Cage padding should be the super high density foam, which feels like a brick to your head, but in an accident with your helmet on it will really soften the impact. If your cage padding gives to the touch, it's useless.

Alex
My car is a joke, as well as my racing record, and my credibility as a cage builder.......you are right!
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