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Old 01-03-2005, 01:55 AM   #1
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What is the benefits of having 19" rims on a passanger car?
(except for the bling bling)
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Old 01-03-2005, 08:13 AM   #2
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There is none....zip....zilch....nada....

....expensive, heavy, useless, and kiddie...come easily to mind to describe 19's....especially on a Subaru.
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Old 01-03-2005, 08:56 AM   #3
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There is none....zip....zilch....nada....

....expensive, heavy, useless, and kiddie...come easily to mind to describe 19's....especially on a Subaru.
Not necessarily. What if you have a huge 6 pot setup that will not fit in 18's. There are a few kits out there.

Now whether or not those are needed on a street car with stock brakes is a different story.
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:54 AM   #4
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it's all about variables..

what tires u run, what brakes u are running, what springs u are running...on and on and on.... and a big one..ur taste...

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Old 01-03-2005, 12:23 PM   #5
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There is none....zip....zilch....nada....

....expensive, heavy, useless, and kiddie...come easily to mind to describe 19's....especially on a Subaru.
I agree....they're all for show
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:46 PM   #6
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There is none....zip....zilch....nada....

....expensive, heavy, useless, and kiddie...come easily to mind to describe 19's....especially on a Subaru.
agree..
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Old 01-03-2005, 03:40 PM   #7
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Besides bling bling doesnt go with the car, just look at the aussie threads.
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Old 01-03-2005, 10:57 PM   #8
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Not necessarily. What if you have a huge 6 pot setup that will not fit in 18's. There are a few kits out there.


...now THAT's even a bigger waste of time, effort, $$$ and everything else than the 19's

Kiddies NEED 19's.....and big airplane wings and neon and zebra stripes and ps2's and......
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Old 01-04-2005, 09:31 PM   #9
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Not necessarily. What if you have a huge 6 pot setup that will not fit in 18's
well....a 19" wheel will be heavy and be VERY hard to get spinning, therefore it will have a ton of rotational inertia once it gets spinning really fast. That means it will take a lot to stop all of that which would mean larger breaks. It kind of defeats the purpose of getting a BBK that needs 19" wheels...if you follow my logic.
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Old 01-04-2005, 10:16 PM   #10
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i had 19's. 33lbs each. now I have Toora T690 comps. 17" 11lbs. slightly noticed a change(sarcastic)
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Old 01-04-2005, 10:19 PM   #11
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33lbs each ***.
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i had 19's. 33lbs each. now I have Toora T690 comps. 17" 11lbs. slightly noticed a change(sarcastic)
he has seen the light, amen.
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Old 01-05-2005, 04:31 PM   #13
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well....a 19" wheel will be heavy and be VERY hard to get spinning, therefore it will have a ton of rotational inertia once it gets spinning really fast. That means it will take a lot to stop all of that which would mean larger breaks. It kind of defeats the purpose of getting a BBK that needs 19" wheels...if you follow my logic.
Then why do all the GJTC cars use them??? Not to mention many other road race type/touring type cars. I know they are race cars, but...
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Old 01-05-2005, 04:49 PM   #14
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they use MUCH lighter wheels and actually need the large disks....because like you said, they are racing.
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Old 01-05-2005, 04:55 PM   #15
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they use MUCH lighter wheels and actually need the large disks....because like you said, they are racing.
But a setup similar to theirs could still be aplicable on the street. And who's to say the person with the 19's didn't spend a grand a piece for some 3lb wheels?(obviously a gross exageration)
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Old 01-05-2005, 05:27 PM   #16
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I only had the 19's cuz they were on the car when I bought it. they can use the larger wheels beacuse they have ALOT more power, and huge brakes. it also gives them a better final drive ratio for top speed.
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Old 01-05-2005, 09:28 PM   #17
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Then why do all the GJTC cars use them??? Not to mention many other road race type/touring type cars. I know they are race cars, but...


......this is one of those ridiculous things that is the reason that there is SO damn...TOO damn...much 'rice' on the street.....

"....the race cars have it, so it MUST be good on a street car TOO!!!!! so that's why I have it on my street car "

....'aint happenin'....
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So that's the logic they're using.
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deep breath in, deep breath out.

they will learn soon scotty. You cant enlighten all of them yourself
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are soo against 19s it cracks me up..

there really isnt any more deficit to running an 19 than an 18 if you are running the right tire, suspension etc...

they dont weight a whole lot more either... our 19" te37's are about 18.1lbs...

the combination isnt much different than stock, feel-wise, ride quality on our sti is actually improved over the stock tires...

ive done extensive shock, spring, tire, etc testing in various cars (chadblock.com) and im very critical of this stuff.....

Some people do it just for bling you are right, others like my personal cars and the cars we build, do it for many reason, looks is just one of them...

i agree on a subie, 19's are on the large side....but u cant say they are too big....

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most racing series limit tire sizes in order to limit brake sizes..

we used 18;s on the alms cars, and would go larger if they allowed....

increasing the sidewall stiffness almost always produces a better handling car if the compound can handle the increased load transfer.

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they dont weight a whole lot more either... our 19" te37's are about 18.1lbs..
And its not just weight either. It is also the fact that most of the mass is on the outside of the rims, which your putting further away from the center of the wheels. When you square the radius those few inches become pretty significant.

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i agree on a subie, 19's are on the large side....but u cant say they are too big....
I would have to say they look rediculous on a Subaru. They look great on your european sports sedan S4, which is strictly for road use. However, on a Japanese rally based car...well they look fugly if you ask me. Sorry
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we are all entitled to our opinion....

ill make sure to post pics when our car is done, so that u can see it...on coilovers, with 14" brakes etc etc...

i can tell u from experience about the mass....on a street car...its not a big deal...at the track maybe...but if i went to the track i wouldnt be running a street wheel/tire combination to begin with...

i can notice 10lbs of cross weight in a race car...on the street... you weigh 200 i weigh 155, there is a difference also...

unless its huge reciprocating mass, u wont notice a difference....

anyway.. like i said..we are all entitled to our opinions...hell i could say 17 's are WAY too small...but i dont...

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19's are KIDDIE....100% plain, pure, and simple.

Anybody that thinks ANY Subaru needs 19's has bought the brainwashing that is FAR-FAR too prevelant in our society, today.

You are looking to get your ego's stroked by 'lookin' koo'....and THAT is kiddie....and you fell for it
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19's are KIDDIE....100% plain, pure, and simple.

Anybody that thinks ANY Subaru needs 19's has bought the brainwashing that is FAR-FAR too prevelant in our society, today.

You are looking to get your ego's stroked by 'lookin' koo'....and THAT is kiddie....and you fell for it
And anyone who is not open to any ideas other than his own is..."kiddie."
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