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Old 02-07-2005, 01:43 PM   #1
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Default Let's make a complete compendium of big/rotated turbo kits.

GT35R

Perrin Performance - http://www.perrinperformance.com
Includes:
GT35R
Uppipe
Downpipe
Wastegate (Tial 44mm) (plumbed back into downpipe)
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Intake with bigMAF
Adaptor piece to fit FMIC

Fits most FMICs

Price: $2700

Notes:
Turbo is not a 3" conical discharge GT35R.
Possible idle problems with provided intake.
Minor fitment issues.

Helix - http://www.gruppe-s.com
This kit is not out yet. The kit is projected to include:

GT35R
Uppipe
Downpipe
Wastegate (Tial 38mm or 44mm, possible adaptor)
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Intake

Price: <$2500


Ultimate Racing - http://www.ultimate-racing.com
Includes:

GT35R
Upipe
Downpipe
Wategate (Tial 44mm) vented to atmosphere
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Col Air Intake with MAF housing

Price: $3600

Notes:
Has reputation for good fitment.
Can be made to fit TMIC, traditional FMIC, or custom pipes.


GT30R


Perrin Performance - http://www.perrinperformance.com
Includes:

GT30R
Uppipe
Downpipe
Wastegate (Tial 44mm) (plumbed back into downpipe)
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Intake with bigMAF
Adaptor piece to fit FMIC

Fits most FMICs

Price: $2500

Notes:
Turbo is not a 3" conical discharge GT30R.
Possible idle problems with provided intake.
Minor fitment issues.

Helix - http://www.gruppe-s.com
This kit is not out yet. The kit is projected to include:

GT30R
Uppipe
Downpipe
Wastegate (Tial 38mm or 44mm, possible adaptor)
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Intake

Price: <$2500



Ultimate Racing - http://www.ultimate-racing.com
Includes:

GT30R
Upipe
Downpipe
Wategate (Tial 38mm) vented to atmosphere
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Codl Air Intake with MAF housing

Price: $3400

Notes:
Has reputation for good fitment.
Can be made to fit TMIC, traditional FMIC, or custom pipes.
Ultimate Racing recommends the GT35R for the sti, and if you insist on a smaller turbo, use their T3/T04E kit which offers similar performance as a GT30R for less, according to them.


Other

Element Tuning - http://www.elementtuning.com
GT65 kit

Includes:
"GT65" 65 lbs/min garret non-ball bearing turbo
Upipe
Downpipe
Wastegate (Turbosmart 38mm) plumbed back
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Intake

Price: $2900

Notes:
Designed to work with Element Hydra, no MAF solution provided
upper charge pipes $300 option

APS - http://www.airpowersystems.com.au
TSR70 rotated mount

Includes:
70 lbs/min twin scroll ball bearing turbo
Uppipe
Downpipe adaptor (fits with APS downpipe)
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Intake Adaptor

Price: $3000

Notes:
EWG can be plumbed back or vented to atmosphere
REQUIRES APS twinscroll headers for $800

Godspeed - http://www.godspeedinc.com

Includes:
Spec R 520, Spec R 650, or Spec R 750 ball bearing turbo (FP turbos)
GTSpec II header
Uppipe
Downpipe
Wastegate (Tial 44mm) plumbed back to downpipe
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Inlet pipe/intake with air temp sensor
Outlet pipe for APS FMIC

Price - $3600

Greddy T67 - ???

Includes:
Mitsubishi 25G turbo
Uppipe adaptor
Downpipe
Wastegate (Greddy) vents to atmosphere
Gaskets
Oil fittings
outlet adaptor for Greddy FMIC

Price - $2500

T3/T4



Ultimate Racing - http://www.ultimate-racing.com
Includes:

50-trim T3/T04E with .63 A/R Garret turbo
Uppipe
Downpipe
Wategate (Tial 38mm) vented to atmosphere
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Cold Air Intake with MAF housing

Price: $2500

Notes:
Has reputation for good fitment.
Can be made to fit TMIC, traditional FMIC, or custom pipes

Ultimate Racing - http://www.ultimate-racing.com
Includes:

T3/T04S with .63 A/R Garret turbo
Uppipe
Downpipe
Wategate (Tial 38mm) vented to atmosphere
Gaskets
Oil/Water fittings
Cold Air Intake with MAF housing

Price: $2600

Notes:
Has reputation for good fitment.
Can be made to fit TMIC, traditional FMIC, or custom pipes


Bolt-on

AVO 450 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
AVO 500 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
AVO 600 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
APS SR50 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
APS SR55 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
Superzilla (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
Superzilla 55 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
Superzilla 65 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
SBR GT10-14 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
FPGreen (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
FPRed (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
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Old 02-07-2005, 02:58 PM   #2
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Ultimate Racing GT series and T series turbo kits

'Big' Turbos--APS SR50/55, AVO 450/500, Deadbolt Superzilla 51lb/55lb wheels, SBR (Fullthrottle) GT10-14

Godspeed kit

Greddy t67 turbo kit

Blitz K-series turbo kit

HKS GT-RS turbo kit (internally gated)

Apexi i believe has one

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Old 02-07-2005, 03:18 PM   #3
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Not sure what the point of this is without at least links to threads or info. btw.

So...
www.ultimate-racing.com (~3500) GT30/35 35 has made 500+whp
www.kingpinperformance.com (~3500) 30/35 35 has made 500+whp
www.forcedperformance.com (~1500) Green has made 400+whp
www.perrinperformance.com FP 3052 has made ~400whp
www.gruppe-s.com (T67, HKS, Blitz) also www.mauromotorsports.com (~2500/~3000/?)
www.slowboyracing.com (~1400)
www.avoturbo.com (~1700) 450/500 500 has made 440whp
www.airpowersystems.com.au (~1800) sr50/sr55 55 has made 400+whp

There is obviously alot of data on many of these on many different dynos. It's going to be tough to decide how to organize everything and what to list exactly. It may be better to be more broad and list some good search terms. I don't know, maybe just add the missing ones to the turbo FAQ.

P.S. These are all off the top of my head so please correct me if i've made a mistake...i'll try and check these later and add more hopefully.

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Old 02-07-2005, 03:37 PM   #4
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thanks for the help S2BG

if you guys can help me find dyno sheets of all these setups and more specifics, post them and I'll update my post.
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Old 02-07-2005, 03:43 PM   #5
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=705831
Kingpin gt35 (atmoshpere dump wastegate)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=588640
Ultimate Racing gt35 (atmoshpere dump wastegate)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=710836
Perrin GT30

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=710259
GT32

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=green
SBR GT11

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=avo500
SBR GT12

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=green
TXS Green on STi

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=green
FP Green on 2.0l sti motor

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...=sr55+dynocomp
SR55 Results on a few cars iirc

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=avo500
Superzilla 49lb?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=650057
Gruppe-S gt30 (atmoshpere dump wastegate)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ight=HKS+gt-rs
HKS GT-RS kit

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=avo500
AVO 500

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=avo500
AVO 600 (Forgot to add this turbo beforehand)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=avo500
XS500=AVO 450

http://allwheeljunkies.com/modules.p...ewtopic&t=5552
Section 8 gt30/35 kits (wastegate rerouted to downpipe)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...highlight=dr65
APS DR65 (atmoshpere dump wastegate)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...highlight=dr65
APS SR50

Forgot to add the APS DR55 and DR65 rotated mount setups.
EDIT: Element Tuning will be releasing a kit (thanks IRSFan). There is also GPmoto's GT40 turbo kit.

Alot of these are obviously not a great representation of what the turbo is truly capable of and what should 'normally' be expected out of it, these are just starting points.

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Old 02-07-2005, 03:51 PM   #6
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Sticky!!!! Now!!!!!!
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Old 02-07-2005, 04:17 PM   #7
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ya this needs a sticky, it has some good info. Lots of companies are starting to release there big turbo kits now, and after riding in phils car this past weekend, im gonna have to buy one too I know hes working on one as well.
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Old 02-07-2005, 04:38 PM   #8
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We have three turbo kits. We have a GT kit, a T3T4 kit and a T04R kit. The only difference is the downpipe between the GT and T3/T4 kit as the T3T4 turbos use the 4 bolt T3 turbine. The T04R kit uses the T04 hotside and T04R compressor at 75 lbs a min. This kit is on our shop car now and is being tuned. The kit is not in production yet. The T3T4 kit can be had with just about any Trim T3T4 turbo you want for around $3000. The GT35R kit runs about $3800 and the G30R kit runs about $3600. Our kit has many options so price can vary alot. We offer HPC coating, choice of intake, bov and of course turbo trim. Its best to call me to get a qoute on exactly what you will need.

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Internally Gated (Naturally offered this way)
AVO 450
AVO 500
AVO 600
APS SR50
APS SR55
Superzilla
SBR GT10-14
FPGreen
FPRed
HKS GT-RS
GPMoto GT32 (option either way iirc)
APS DR55/65

Externally Gated (Naturally offered)
GPMoto GT32
Perrin GT30/35
GPMoto GT40
Kingpin GT30/35/Tseries
Ult. Racing GT30/35/Tseries
Section 8 GT30/35
T67
APS DR55/65 (option either way iirc)
Godspeed GT30/35
Gruppe-S GT30

Preferred FMIC application:
AVO 450 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
AVO 500 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
AVO 600 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
APS SR50 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
APS SR55 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
Superzilla (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
SBR GT10-14 (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
FPGreen (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
FPRed (Bolt on, most bolt on wrx FMIC's will work)
APS DR55/65 (APS FMIC, adapter provided)
Kingpin (Kingpin FMIC, adapter available for APS)
Ult. Racing (Ult. Racing FMIC, adapter available for TMIC)
Section 8 (Sec. 8 FMIC, adapter available for TXS FMIC)
Perrin (Perrin FMIC adapter)
GPmoto 32 (GPmoto FMIC)
T67 (Adapter for Greddy FMIC)
Godspeed (Adapter for APS FMIC)
Gruppe-S (Adapter for APS FMIC)

*These are the already made available adapters or FMIC's from what i gathered in the threads. I'm sure many can provide adapter's that work with any FMIC. Many will also work with any FMIC even if not explicitly said so...it's just the vendor won't say so as they may not have tried it and can't 100% confirm it. Please consult the vendor obviously, this is simply a guidline.
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Old 02-07-2005, 11:34 PM   #10
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S2BG - thank you so much for your help, give me a day or so and I'll take all the info and try to formulate it into 1 giant post
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bump, with the new kits coming out, I refreshed the original post with what I think are the current kits out there.

feel free to add info, and PM me if you want info added. I like to put into the general consensus on kit quality in the Notes section.
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:38 PM   #12
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UR no longer plays with GT30r turbos.....

GruppeS no longer has one either....
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:44 PM   #13
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Quote:
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UR no longer plays with GT30r turbos.....

GruppeS no longer has one either....
it's still on their website, so I assumed they still carried it for the sti. I also removed Gruppe-S from the list.
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Old 04-06-2006, 11:36 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Crunch
it's still on their website, so I assumed they still carried it for the sti. I also removed Gruppe-S from the list.
its there, but they don't play with it anymore... They now use that T3/T04 turbo instead, since it is much cheaper and not much lagier.
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all GT32 reviews are on 2.5L blocks
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Quote:
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all GT32 reviews are on 2.5L blocks
I think that's because most of these setups give a good bit of lag on a 2.0L...especially the ej205
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this is great info
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Quote:
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its there, but they don't play with it anymore... They now use that T3/T04 turbo instead, since it is much cheaper and not much lagier.
I'll PM UR and ask if I should take it off. Thanks for letting me know.

To everyone: is there anything else I can add to make this more useful? I'm wary about adding dynoplots, because they are largely incomparable. Maybe pics?
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oh and mods, can I cross post this into the 2.5 forum? I think they would get some use out of this too.
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links to some sound clips of the external gated models would be interesting along with those pictures.
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I would really lie to know that a GT35R looks like on a stock 2.0 EJ20 if in fact the motor could hold it
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I would really lie to know that a GT35R looks like on a stock 2.0 EJ20 if in fact the motor could hold it
Something something full spool at 5.5k revs something something?

Just a guess.
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I would really lie to know that a GT35R looks like on a stock 2.0 EJ20 if in fact the motor could hold it
the motor probably couldn't hold it.
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bump. Is this information updated?
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