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07-25-2005, 03:08 AM | #1 |
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will a utec work with 4eat?
i just bought a utec off of a private seller at a really good price but after talking with someone at turboxs i am skeptical about using it. Even the guy at turboxs said that i should just get a reflash. do any of the other 4eat owners have a utec running in there cars?
I am going to do a 5 speed tranny swap as soon as i get the money but it is going to be a good month or two. i have considered a pt tc but what horsepower i want from the car i am not sure the 4eat can handle.(400 whp give or take).
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07-25-2005, 07:07 AM | #2 | |||
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07-25-2005, 03:29 PM | #3 |
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i thought about it and a dealer will only give me 11k for my car and there is no way that i am going to trade it in for that.
with the tranny swap i expect to spend around 2k but tthis is with some upgraded parts(clutch) then i will save for the gears, but dont know which ones yet the dogbox from turboxs looks good but so does the ra gear set. i will do more research before i decide hopefully the install will go smooth but nothing ever does. the only thing that i have to actually drill is for the pedal set all of the other locations have the holes in the firewall. |
07-25-2005, 04:24 PM | #4 | |
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07-25-2005, 07:33 PM | #5 |
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my friend has a 04' automatic and it can't be tuned. keeps downshifting when in 2nd or 3rd can't remember. dynodynamics dyno.
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07-25-2005, 09:00 PM | #6 |
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You can run a utec on a 4eat, you just can't run the olf feature. I have had a utec on my car for 3 years now with a 4eat and only have a few minor hiccups. For a normal everyday kind of thing you would never notice them. There are a number of people on here that have utec's with the 4eat. If you are looking to do some tuning the utec will work, if you are looking for a set it and forget kinda of thing, go with the reflash. Just remember that with the utec you can not run olf, so your fuel map will look a little weird.
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07-25-2005, 10:03 PM | #7 | |
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07-26-2005, 02:31 AM | #8 |
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what ecu options are there for the 4EAT?? if i am say putting on a td05-H 16g, and i need the fuel control.
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07-26-2005, 10:52 AM | #9 |
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stay away from the utec, especially if you're going to push a lot of horsepower.
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07-26-2005, 10:54 AM | #10 | |
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07-26-2005, 12:06 PM | #11 | |
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07-26-2005, 02:11 PM | #12 | |
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07-26-2005, 09:19 PM | #13 | |
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07-26-2005, 11:12 PM | #14 | |
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ummm...blown tranny. no use of OLF. can't get rid of factory speed limit governor, which means it's pointless to go for 400whp when you can't even drive over 120mph. complete total lack of 4eat support from turboxs. and yes, i've talked to nathan and pete several times....no help whatsoever. call me jaded. |
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07-26-2005, 11:13 PM | #15 | |
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why? you got an auto? shut up then. |
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07-27-2005, 12:04 AM | #16 | |
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B: It's 130MPH C: well no arguement on the support side.. but lots of projects, one Pete. Jorge (RiftsWRX) www.ProjectWRX.com |
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07-27-2005, 12:31 AM | #17 |
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I have a utec and have hit 145+mph. Does it not remove the speed limiter only on the auto's?
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07-27-2005, 01:12 AM | #18 | |
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A. so what? i used OLF and it broke, hence my advice not to use the UTEC with a 4eat. whether it was my decision or somebody else's to use OLF is irrelevant. the fact is, the UTEC's OLF did it, so it's a bad idea to use a utec with a 4eat. B. it's 120mph. i have never been able to go over 120mph. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...+speed+limiter C. meh, don't blame them. i know of 2 people using (or were using) UTECs with their 4eat. you and me. i doubt they come out with a revision just for the both of us. |
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07-27-2005, 01:13 AM | #19 | |
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don't you have a manual???? the stock speed limiter only exists on the autos. |
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07-27-2005, 02:54 AM | #20 | |
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07-27-2005, 08:12 AM | #21 | |
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You know nothing about what I know, or my automotive background so suck it n00b. You clearly admit your OWN STUPIDITY is what broke it. You WERE TOLD THAT YOU CANNOT SAFELY RUN OLF, and yet your dumb ass ran it, because you obviously know more than EVERYONE ELSE, then you have the sheer balls to blame the UTEC for YOUR OWN FAILURE TO FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS> "Dont hit yourself on the head with this hammer" WHAP "ouch, this hammer sucks, I hit myself on the head with it, now I have a headache, that is clearly the hammers fault" |
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07-27-2005, 08:40 AM | #22 | |
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B: It's the factory speed limiter, which Subaru claims is 130MPH, if you hit 120, then I suspect your speedo gear is off. C: I can rattle over a dozen off the top of my head, and I know I've done more. Jorge (RiftsWRX) www.ProjectWRX.com |
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07-27-2005, 09:29 AM | #23 | |
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the speed limiter only applies to the auto. the utec will work fine with a manual. this is a thread about the utec with an auto. |
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