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Old 08-12-2001, 04:47 AM   #1
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I am looking for a new car and the Subaru's look like a great buy. I don't really like the look of the new Impreza WRX's but I do like the older look. Is there any Imprezas that are for sale in the US that have over 200 HP and look like this (the smaller, rectangular headlights):


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Old 08-12-2001, 05:10 AM   #2
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Ahhhh

a Lilttle Ole Uk STIV5 and a P1

No way you will ever see those cars in the USA

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Old 08-12-2001, 05:43 AM   #3
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yea man you won't find those here, why would you wanna subaru anyway?
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Old 08-12-2001, 06:06 AM   #4
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everything is possible if you have enough money!
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Old 08-12-2001, 06:17 AM   #5
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everything is possible if you have enough money!
But ... you can never have enough money
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Old 08-12-2001, 07:15 AM   #6
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Hey, anyone going to actually answer this?

I suppose I will. Buy a 98-01 Impreza RS, do some simple engine mods (intake, exhaust, etc.) to get 200 HP, do a suspention mod to lower the car a bit, throw on some dress up parts. Oh, and stickers. Pleanty of people have done it. Look around the links on this site and you should find everything.

Just to add some fuel to this, 200 HP is obtainable without turbo. The RS comes with 165 stock. You only need a little better than a 20% gain.
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Old 08-12-2001, 09:08 AM   #7
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gaining 35 horsepower in NA is really hard. Intake and exhaust gives only 10 hp or so at the most. You'll need head work and cam work and blueprint and everything to get 35 horse power. Probably cheeper to get bolt on turbo kit.
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Old 08-12-2001, 09:24 AM   #8
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Yeah, thats a common misconception.

a 20% gain is huge, I know all these aftermarket guys make claims of 15hp at the wheels and stuff like that

Basically if an intake offers 20hp it really gives you 10....

I was LMAO at this JC whitney catalogue saying that an UNDERDRIVE CRANK PULLEY (no not a full set) was good for up to 23hp at the wheels all I can say is:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

but i feel for ya man, i bought my rs because of the new style. and when its turbo'd there will be no smug responese from those WRX owners anymore....... COUGHdodgeneonCOUGH COUGHdaewooCOUGH

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Old 08-12-2001, 12:39 PM   #9
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I am at roughly 190hp with exhaust w/midpipe, headers, intake, pulleys and cobb n/a camshafts. Its a lot of pep, I love it, but a turbo is next on the list with a tec II if $ permits
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Old 08-12-2001, 12:49 PM   #10
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haha i wish we could get the P1 and STI here in the old body style. even though i dont think i could afford one but they are tite!
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Old 08-12-2001, 01:34 PM   #11
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What about the Cobb tuned model's aren't they like 190-200 hp?
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Old 08-12-2001, 01:34 PM   #12
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Punisher, you can, but you'll need to get it registered, or keep it here as a show car or a collector's car. Oh yeah, you gotta save up some $$$.
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Old 08-12-2001, 02:46 PM   #13
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call motorex...they can get almost any car over here...they've gotten skyline's and silvia's....so i figure getting an sti or p1 shouldn't be too much of job for them

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Old 08-12-2001, 08:17 PM   #14
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I do believe that according to the BSFC value our OEM injectors can only possibly flow around 195 hp. which should be doable with heads, cams, and full bolt ons. definitely the best N/A setups are almost ALL from Cobb, cept maybe one of those fully built N/A motors but that runs much more then a turbo.....
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OK, about 2 years ago Sport Compact Car started their project Impreza by just changing intakes and exhaust. They have dyno numbers for a number of combinations. If my memory serves me correctly, just those two things gave 20HP in one of the combos. Granted, there were some setups that provided nothing, sometimes even hurt top end.

Does someone have that issue? I cannot find mine for the life of me. Shiv? Can you enlighten us?

For the record, I'm going to stick to my earlier statement. You can get 200 HP without turbo.
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Old 08-12-2001, 08:50 PM   #16
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I wanna see a scanned dyno result of that!
what stage cams?

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I am at roughly 190hp with exhaust w/midpipe, headers, intake, pulleys and cobb n/a camshafts. Its a lot of pep, I love it, but a turbo is next on the list with a tec II if $ permits
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Old 08-12-2001, 09:42 PM   #17
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I think the March 2000 issue of SCC has the article with Dyno results. I got this from their website:



The Article is Project Impreza part III. Anyone got it?
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Old 08-12-2001, 10:03 PM   #18
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OK, about 2 years ago Sport Compact Car started their project Impreza by just changing intakes and exhaust. They have dyno numbers for a number of combinations. If my memory serves me correctly, just those two things gave 20HP in one of the combos. Granted, there were some setups that provided nothing, sometimes even hurt top end.

Does someone have that issue? I cannot find mine for the life of me. Shiv? Can you enlighten us?

For the record, I'm going to stick to my earlier statement. You can get 200 HP without turbo.
I`ve got it in my hand now.(this is no joke.it`s a revelation.Within the span of just one day, we increased wheel hp by an astounding 20%) with cobb cams you should be close to 200 est. hp.
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Old 08-12-2001, 10:21 PM   #19
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But as i said read the issue of SCC with the bozz speed lancer EVO on the cover, about 4 months ago.
The Brake Specific Fuel Comsumption value states that an angine cannot make more HP then it's injectors can squirt into the cylinders and make combust.

They outline that without uprgading fuel injectors or at least rising preasure and using race gas, that the stock OEM injectors on a 2.5 RS (yeah they use project impreza data) can realistically only pump 195hp without a larger BSFC value (which requires running dangerously lean, race gas, or fuel compensation. period) They did run over 200hp with stock injectors but now realize that they were running dangerously lean, and this would not have been a good idea to continue.

I'm saying that within the realm of BOLT ON performance 200 is not entirely realistic i think it is safe to say that cobb tuned models (full stuff not just intake and exhaust) can put out mid 190's only without adressing this problem. Realistically i think my car which is running intake exhaust headers and chip is only probably putting out (assuming it cvame with the stock 165 crank hp and the stock 166 crank lb ft) maybe at the best 170 something hp, maybe 180 some if i use race gas. Its just best in my mind to not trick yourself into thinking that all thiongs are equal. If SCC's project focus hasn't told you alreayd stock cars can differ greatly in HP numbers. ad well I can only assume modded cars are worse. Claims are just that claims until you do the same thing and get the same result. Thats all just my thoughts

But im no Shiv.

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From milkman:

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I`ve got it in my hand now.(this is no joke.it`s a revelation.Within the span of just one day, we increased wheel hp by an astounding 20%) with cobb cams you should be close to 200 est. hp.
Isn't a 20% gain 198 HP? 165 X 1.20=198

If you want to get picky, throw on some pullies. That would translate into the equivalent of over 200HP. That's over 200 with only bolt on parts. Exhaust, intake (and filter), pullies only. I'm so happy I'm right all the time. WooHoo!

Now where's that damn flame suit?

By the way, a Cobb tuned impeza makes 185 HP with only an intake and exhaust. Check their site.
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ok... so what you guys are saying is that a cobb tuned (a full model that you COULD buy from a dealership) WITHOUT cams. is running 190hp.

but, some dude in montreal WITH cams is putting out only 190ish???

I reall doubt all of this.

Intake, Headers, Exhaust, Cams = over 200 EASY
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Old 08-12-2001, 10:26 PM   #22
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I refuse to believe any of those megazines... all I will believe is a Dyno.

thank god cobb tuning has one being installed this month
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Old 08-12-2001, 10:31 PM   #23
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I ME I ME I, ment fully tuned I.E Cams Heads Conrods Valves ETC ETC is only pushing 190ish but as i said thats all my opinion based on my limited knowledge. No freakin way an intake and exhaust push you up to almost 200 hp not even close.
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Old 08-12-2001, 10:34 PM   #24
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yeah, i whole heartedly agree... intake and exhaust WONT take you over 200hp

the two combined MIGHT take you to 180hp.. maybe. I dunno... Cobb will have results for us soon
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I refuse to believe any of those megazines... all I will believe is a Dyno.
Read my posts. SCC was testing WITH A DYNO. I don't believe any claims without one either.
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