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Old 02-15-2001, 02:53 PM   #1

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Post Would you trust Schaumburg Subaru to...

...put a new short block in your car? I've got a bad case of piston slap going on (engine knocks real loud when it's really cold), but I keep hearing horror stories about work they've done not tunring out right and things still being wrong. Supposedly it isn't doing any harm, just making noise, but I don't trust metal against metal clanking in any sense.

There is still the chance this is a tensioner, but somehow it doesn't sound like it's coming from anywhere near up front of the engine. The only thing that could lead me to believe it was still the tensioner is that it still knock until it has been fully warmed up for several minutes - I would think the pistons and cylinder walls would be warmed up DAMN quick...

Now Craig is really cool, though I know George can be a pain, but the mechanics are really what I'm concerned about. From what I understand, Donnie's old car's trans. is still leaking after being replaced, returned, fixed, and sold - and that is a simple trans. install, not the entire engine!

Not to mention that I'll end up getting a POS rental until I get my car back... I would want something of equal or greater value here, guys.

Craig - if you're reading this, sorry to have to doubt your guys there, but I just keep hearing stories about how they didn't do things right and things came out still leaking and stuff like that. If you'd let me do it myself with equipment there, that'd be another story, but I know that isn't going to happen because of all the ins. regulations and whatnot.

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Old 02-15-2001, 03:01 PM   #2
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Go to SOS and stay there. Go downstairs later and watch the tech work on your car. Give him helpful hints like: "You wanna use a torque wrench there, not the impact gun set on high."

Naw, basically the techs are cool. I have yet to meet a snobby tech there. One of the techs, Bob(I think) the older tech, has had experience tearing appart the engine all the way to rebuilding one. Ask Craig which tech I'm talking about.
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Old 02-15-2001, 03:08 PM   #3

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Andrew - You're talking about the old guy that used to be shop warden but isn't working there any more? lol

And don't laugh about the impact gun thing... I'm missing a mounting bolt for my passenger front seat to hold it to the floor cause one of the guys working there stripped the hell out of it putting it back in when they were working on my seats.
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Old 02-15-2001, 08:10 PM   #4
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Well, what is the alternative?

They have an obligation to fix the car and fix it right, the problem you have is that once you put the turbo on all bets will be off and they will always be able to claim that the turbo is causing whatever problem you are having.

I would find out if they get short blocks complete or if they just get the parts and have to assemble it on site. If its a complete shortblock then it is not all that difficult of a job. If they are assembling an engine from scratch, there are many more things that can go wrong.

Also, if you can get them to do other work at the same time, like the clutch (they will already need to remove it), or the motor mounts (they will already need to remove it), etc. then you are ahead of the game.

I would make it clear to them that you expect it to be done right and you will be a PITA until it is.

I don't know enough about dealers to suggest another that might be better.
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Old 02-15-2001, 11:09 PM   #5
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Okay B... there are a few possibilties on your noise. 2.5 engine have a characteristic for noise cold, it sounds like a diesel engine cold, it may be the vale train noise that is natorious in 2,5 motors. Although we have had a few 25s that ended up being piston slap, and in that case I ordered up a short block to correct the problem and get the customer back on the road in the shortest time. The bottom line, you need to take it to a dealership with EXPERIENCED Techs! E mail me for more info if you like.
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Old 02-15-2001, 11:27 PM   #6

As most of you know, i'm not a subaru tech but am a tech.....I'll have to agree with subatek with what he/she said...MY99 makes alot of noise when cold(valves is my guess until it warms up)...as far as the kind of work being doe...well its really hard to say until you've actually had your car in for repair....(i've had a bad experience here at mid city nissan/subaru and will never go back there again). My suggestion is ask around and try different dealers until you find one that you are comfortable with...
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Old 02-16-2001, 06:56 AM   #7
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Nick, i cant beleive i am going to suggest this but if you do end up needing a short block. COnsider taking your car to Roto. Forget all the stuff you hear aobut them.Their main tech is good in that anal sort of way in which you dont want to deal with him unless you need a short block. And since the turbo is not on the car you should be ok. I would however put your stock air box back on.

As an alternative the main tech (there are only 2)at HIghland Park (grant dean) has been working on subes for a long time cant remmber what he said, and he is a master mechanic unlike some techs at SOS. I personally would not go to SOS for major engine work, since they had trouble changing my clutch.

Just my .0091 cents
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Old 02-16-2001, 10:38 PM   #8
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I completely agree, Roto has much better services and experienced techs
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Old 02-16-2001, 10:50 PM   #9
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Roto will be doing my tranny

on tuesday it goes in *shrug* who knows how much [i]this is going to cost me?
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