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Old 11-26-2005, 05:42 PM   #1
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Default fixed-back seat with OEM belt

Is anyone using 3-point belts with their race seats?

I've seen cars set up like this, but never driven one - much less lived with one day to day. The idea is to thread the fixed end of the 3-point permanently through the outboard belt guide. When the belt is buckled, it's run through the inboard guide on its way to the receptor.

My application is autoX, but the car is DD. I want to retain use of the OEM belts for the street. I have a 5-point and harness bar currently in use with the OEM seat (just for racing).

Any thoughts?
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:33 PM   #2
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I guess it would be seat specific but on mine there is no way I could get the belt through the inboard hole to buckle. I have it threaded through the outboard guide and then just buckel it. I have enough waist on me that it doesnt touch the inboard bolster at all when buckled.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:49 PM   #3
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What seat are you using?

My OEM buckle is just shy of 3" wide. Seems like it would pass though a guide designed for 3" lap belts. I'm thinking that the friction on the shoulder belt from the inboard guide might be a little funky, but the buckle ought to fit through (?).
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:56 PM   #4
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Its not that it wont physically fit through, its that when sitting my butt is occupying the space it needs to pass through. Also the seat belt reciever on mine is at about the same height as the hole so even if I got it through the hole there isnt enough room between the seat and center console to manuver it around to buckle.

My seat is a corbeau fx1 with craptastical corbeau brackets. If you have a narrower seat with a bracket that places the belt receiver in the right place you may be able to do what you are describing.
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Old 11-26-2005, 07:17 PM   #5
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I see.

I have a 30" waist, and I'm considering the Recaro "Pole Positions". There should be be plenty of room to get down to the guide from inside the seat. These seats are pretty relaxed as race seats go, they are actually a good deal more comfy than the OEM seats - especially considering the STi's range limitations.

The OEM STi receptor attaches to the seat bracket (as I recall) with a steel bar. I'm thinking that could be modified fairly easily to control the height of the receptor. An intermediate bracket might also need to be fabricated. There's also a certain degree of latitude in the bar's attachment point.

I'll have to look at the console clearance.

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Old 11-26-2005, 08:58 PM   #6
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I've done it with a Recaro seat in a Volvo 240. Worked great.

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When we're daily driving our Sparco Pro 2000s we run the stock seatbelt over the top of the side bolsters on both sides, we actually run our 4 points over the top for autocross because the adjusters would interfere if we didn't. My gut is such that it sticks out further than the side bolsters and even Jen who is much skinnier than I am actually pushes the belt out a little bit. The Pro 2000s have one of the highest side bolsters of any common fixed back seat so if they work over the top for us they should work for you.
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Old 11-26-2005, 10:38 PM   #8
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When we're daily driving our Sparco Pro 2000s we run the stock seatbelt over the top of the side bolsters on both sides,
Eeeeeep! Don't do that! Submarine city. Ping ping ping!

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