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Old 12-11-2005, 01:13 PM   #1
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Default rally x and pillowballs

I know for the gravel it is suggested that you keep your suspension "soft;" and that makes me think soft springs and small swaybars. But what about pillowball bushings on drop links, lateral links, trailing links, etc? Are those too "hard" for gravel?
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:57 PM   #2
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nope they arent too hard but they will wear out pretty fast and need constant maintenance to make sure they dont break.

the soft that people refer to is mainly in the valving of the shocks and the springs.

that being said all that stuff is pretty un needed in rally x.
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Old 12-11-2005, 10:11 PM   #3
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You want independent wheel movement and controlled travel in rallycross -- it's fine to use pillowball mounts and the like but just don't even try to run crazy large swaybars (especially rear) or autox spring rates. Those things work great for auto-x but SUCK for rallyx.

I just bought Pleiades' RS and ran a rallyx with it last weekend. The first three runs I ran with the suspension as-is and had to tiptoe around like I was driving a RWD BMW; the oversteer caused by the big rear swaybar was fun but VERY slow. For the afternoon runs I completely disconnected the rear bar and the car was immediately 4-5 seconds faster and totally controllable with long sections of the course drivable at WOT.

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Old 12-12-2005, 10:06 AM   #4
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I have the Tien pillowball mounts and they are fine at rally-x. I did have one sieze up this spring, but it happened in the shop after sitting around for a few months. All it needed was some TLC...
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:02 AM   #5
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I like a soft set up for rally-X with a big rear sway bar. It makes it easy to pitch the car into corners at low speed.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:59 PM   #6
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Hey, whatever works for you! Our surfaces are VERY soft and low grip so I have no problem initiating turns. On surfaces like ours the BRB setup felt fun and all but was really slow. I'd bet that on higher grip surfaces something more like an auto-x swaybar setup could work well.

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