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Old 12-27-2000, 10:09 AM   #1
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Cool Got Volk Racing Wheels-Need great rubbers!!!

Hey guys & gals(subygal...especially!!!)

I have completed my suspension and just order Volk Racing(http://www.volkracing.co.jp/lineup_1999/volkracing/FINISH/j_indx_se37k.htm)
wheels SE37K (17x7.5)-silver not bronze...I'm still undecided, as far as, what tires I should put on it...My stock wheels have Toyo's FZ4 (205/55V16) and I decided to use these wheel and tire combo for winter time...My NEW VOLK RACING (16 lbs.) wheel that are 17x7.5 will fit what size tires (215/45Z17???)...I am asking YOU to advise ME which tires to get and size!!! The tires needs to be the best performers in rain...have tremendous adhesive-like gripping power in cornering, and have godly response to braking!!! So the ? is what make/model/size do you recommend?

Toyo Proxes T1-S
Falken FK-451
Nitto NT-450
Bridgestone Potenza S-02 Pole Position
Michelin Pilot SX MXX3
Pirelli PZero System Asimmetrico
Pirelli PZero System Direzionale
Dunlop SP Sport 9000
Yokohama AVS Sport

Thanks for your help!

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Old 12-27-2000, 12:53 PM   #2
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Ken, You might want to look at the Yoko AVS db decibel too ! I would give the folks at TireRack a call for sizing recommendations. Oh, and...The check's in the mail today. www.tirerack.com/tires/yokohama/yo_avs_db.jsp

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Old 12-27-2000, 08:22 PM   #3
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The Falken's have my vote. I have Falken GRB RS2's on my Speedlines, and I have the FK451's on my stock GT wheels (for my Legacy L). These tires are great for the money. I'd get the 215/40/17 if you want to lower your car later. Plus, gives great handling characteristics... though it may be a little harsher on the road.
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Old 12-27-2000, 09:33 PM   #4
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If you're really looking for the all-out tires with excellent rain traction, then all of those tires should be dropped from your list with the exception of the S-02PPs ($170 each), the MXX3s ($179), and the AVS Sports ($157). The rest just can't hang with those tires (although I will admit I know very little about the Falkens and the Toyos).

My personal suggestion is not on your list - the Firestone Firehawk SZ50EP ($138). I had them on my Mustang for a few years, and now have them on the Legacy. They are quiet (unlike many blocky ultra high performance tires), ride smoothly, have a cool-looking tread pattern, and have a rim protector bulge on the sidewall (wouldn't want to damage those rims that just cost you, what, $400 each, right?). They have excellent grip, and are absolutely awesome in the wet. The "EP" variant is actually new (my Mustang had the older, regular SZ50s on it, the Legacy has the newer SZ50EPs). As you can read about on the Tire Rack, it uses the same type of mixed rubber compound that the S-02PP uses, so that wet weather traction does not go down as the tire wears. Oh, and even though the tires grip like there's no tomorrow, they still have a 340 treadwear rating!!! That's insane for this kind of tire!

When I wore out the SZ50s on the Mustang, I went to Potenza RE71s (I was putting on 17" rims at the time, and saved mucho $$$ going with the cheaper rubber). The car is not nearly as composed in the rain as it was with the SZ50s. With the SZ50s on the car, I honestly did not mind driving that car in the rain - 400+ supercharged horsepower through the rear wheels and I was perfectly comfortable. Now, with the RE71s I'm a little worried every time I drive in the rain. The car just doesn't feel as locked to the pavement. I will definitely be picking up another set of SZ50s once I burn through the RE71s.

Just my rambling $0.02

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Old 12-28-2000, 07:18 AM   #5
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I'll fill in the holes from patrick above

It has been a long time since I used falkens. Maybe they have gotten better, but they were such horrible tires that I will never buy cheap ones again. They rode like rocks, and had so-so traction. They did have razor sharp turn in though. It would be a crime to put cheap tires on those excellent wheels

The Toyo T1S is one of the best tires on the market for what you are looking for ("...best performers in rain...have tremendous adhesive-like gripping power in cornering, and have godly response to braking!!!" ). You may find other tires that are similar, but they will be few and far between.

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